High ceiling heavy chandelier installation in Toronto. Licensed Electricians
Very high ceiling, hall, ballroom, dome, high bay, church, chandelier installation
Hard-to-reach spots - above stairs, narrow spaces, cathedral ceiling
Reinforce the ceiling before installation of a heavy chandelier
Run a wire to a hallway, loft, high ceiling junction box
Relocating lights and chandeliers on the ceiling
Large chandelier installation around GTA
Moving light outlet box on the ceiling
Scaffolding for very high ceiling
Simple lights installation
Two storey ceiling
Commercial track light installation in stores, galleries, and lofts Moved outlet box on the ceiling and the hole patched
This is an email I received from a man who planned installing a chandelier himself but encountered a number of challenges.
My living room has a cathedral ceiling. A fan is suspended on a long rod. I wanted to replace the fan with a crystal chandelier. I rented a 12 foot step ladder. When I climbed up to take the fan down, I discovered that bracket holding the fan was screwed through drywall directly into a ceiling beam. There was a hole cut in drywall for the wire and that was it. No box. Yes, the bracket was safely and securely fastened to the structure but without an outlet box.
My goal is to install a chandelier but I know that most modern fixtures aren't hung without a box. I need to figure out the best option possible, but which one is right?
I'm looking for suggestions on how to hang this type of fixture other than mounting a junction box first.
Some of the suggestions I got are as follows.
For a safe, secure and code compliant installation, the open top of the chandelier mounting gear needs to be pushed up tight against the newly installed outlet box, so that all wires and connections are enclosed within the closed casing or box.
Cut the drywall around. Measure diameter of the box and cut the beam to accommodate it. Insert the box, fasten it and wire appropriately.
Drill a hole through the joist and install chandelier cross bar straight to the beam. Push the wire from the chandelier up through the hole into the attic above and into a junction box. Make a connection to Romex supply wire and close the box with a cover plate. You have to use a wire rated for the insulated attic.
Forget about the JB and mount the chandelier exactly the same way as the fan before.
I'm hoping you can point me in the right direction.
My answer was: Do not do it yourself. You can burn down the house, kill yourself and the entire family.
Next day I have installed the chandelier for the customer in 2 hours after he spent 5 hours on the forums. Renting the step ladder has cost him almost half of the money I charged for the entire job!
Move ceiling light fixture, relocate light on the ceiling, add three lights above the kitchen island and a switch